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People always assume my cats are Maine Coons largely because many people haven't heard of Norwegian Forest Cats. My two are the only two at the vet practice and the staff always comment.

My two have a few health issues. But I now know they are inbred which does explain the health issues and the breeder wanting rid of them, passing them off as half breeds. Poor breeding practice has a lot to answer for in pets.

Frazz Full Member Posts: 20,284	Really??? Sept 11, 2016 11:05:42 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Frazz on Sept 11, 2016 11:05:42 GMT It's very interesting and confusing, all cats and dogs have been cross bred along the line to achieve a specific breed. Most dogs are mongrels and relatively healthy, where is the line drawn between a cross breed and a mongrel?

Deleted Posts: 0	Really??? Sept 11, 2016 11:13:34 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2016 11:13:34 GMT My parents had German Shepherds...the first one when I was still living at home. She lived for 12 years and the second one for 8 years. They were gorgeous. They were good guard dogs, but very loving to the family.

lily Full Member Posts: 17,400	Really??? Sept 11, 2016 12:05:05 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by lily on Sept 11, 2016 12:05:05 GMT Love "ole blue eyes" - the others are lovely too.

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Sept 11, 2016 11:05:42 GMT Frazz said:

It's very interesting and confusing, all cats and dogs have been cross bred along the line to achieve a specific breed. Most dogs are mongrels and relatively healthy, where is the line drawn between a cross breed and a mongrel?

That's absolutely true Frazz, all dogs are essentially crossbreeds, and the reason mongrels are usually robust is that they're not overbred. Reputable breeders of pedigree dogs will health check dogs and ensure they're not breeding from lines with health problems, or from small gene pools. The issue with 'designer' dogs is that they're usually bred by people whose only interest is money, so they're not ensuring they're breeding from healthy dogs. Often the poor dog is just a breeding machine living in horrible conditions. Pedigree dogs can only have 3 litters registered with the KC. Health issues are especially true in the case of tea cup dogs, bred from the runts to ensure they get smaller and smaller.

They give something a ridiculous name, charge extortionate sums of money, and create a demand from people who want the latest must have 'breed'. The man who first produced the labradoodle has admitted that he bitterly regrets doing it, poodle and Labradors are used for different purposes, so he's created a dog that doesn't know what it's supposed to do.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying all pedigree dog breeders are saints, you only have to look at the appalling health problems some pedigrees have to see the damage creating ridiculous breed standards has caused.

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Sept 11, 2016 11:05:42 GMT Frazz said:

It's very interesting and confusing, all cats and dogs have been cross bred along the line to achieve a specific breed. Most dogs are mongrels and relatively healthy, where is the line drawn between a cross breed and a mongrel?

A half breed where one parent is pedigree and the other not. But I don't really know the definition of a cross breed but I would assume both parents a pure bred but different breeds. Now whether they're pedigree parents or not is where I get a bit lost. Possibly not.

My friend has a cavachon and it is absolutely beautiful. Half cavalier King Charles and half bichon frise or however you spell it. Devine wee creature. Very intelligent. Very well behaved. Has a permanent smile on its wee face.

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lily Full Member Posts: 17,400	Really??? Sept 11, 2016 13:57:46 GMT Diamond Diva likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by lily on Sept 11, 2016 13:57:46 GMT Years ago they would have been called mongrels ...

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Yorko Administrator Posts: 34,172 Mood: Y	Really??? Sept 11, 2016 14:37:20 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Yorko on Sept 11, 2016 14:37:20 GMT I am presuming that is a photoshop job

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Frazz Full Member Posts: 20,284	Really??? Sept 11, 2016 15:08:46 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Frazz on Sept 11, 2016 15:08:46 GMT That's good @incognito, and clearer, thanks. Interesting about crossing animals of different purposes. Temperament must be important too,hope no one ever crosses a Springer and a Red Setter!

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Sept 11, 2016 14:37:20 GMT Yorko said:

I am presuming that is a photoshop job

Nope, Quasi Modo is real and won the World's Ugliest Dog competition last year.

fox5sandiego.com/2015/06/28/meet-the-worlds-ugliest-dog-quasi-modo/

He's a ten year old Pit Bull / Dutch Shepherd cross with a defective spine.

Yorko Administrator Posts: 34,172 Mood: Y	Really??? Sept 11, 2016 15:28:40 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Yorko on Sept 11, 2016 15:28:40 GMT Thats a big shame

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Sept 11, 2016 15:28:40 GMT Yorko said:

Thats a big shame

Apparently he's lovely.

He has multiple birth defects to his spine and his back is too short for the rest of his body.

“In spite of this I still run, play and enjoy life to the fullest.”

Grown-ups have mistaken him for a hyena or Tasmanian devil and jumped on their cars to get away from him, “but once they get to know me I win them over with my bubbly personality,” the bio says.

"The bio"? Must be some American idea. O_o

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